Curse

Chocobo1 · Oct 27, 2009, 03:22 AM // 03:22

What is up with the warriors? I know it's been repeated several times in this thread but its just insane how many use Crushing Blow without a KD. I mean the skills are literally 1 - 2 - 3. I don't get how you can be just that bad at the game, even the RA folk know how to 1 -2 a hammer.

Martin Alvito · Oct 27, 2009, 03:31 AM // 03:31

Two probable issues:

1) If you were good and you wanted to play melee, you'd be on a Sin. Therefore, people playing Warrior are terrible.
2) It's the class that's being botted.

Hooded Doom · Oct 27, 2009, 03:44 AM // 03:44

>.<

absolutely, sins are this shizz and warriors are (n) by comparison

Chocobo1 · Oct 27, 2009, 03:45 AM // 03:45

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

Two probable issues:

1) If you were good and you wanted to play melee, you'd be on a Sin. Therefore, people playing Warrior are terrible.
2) It's the class that's being botted.

Warriors are at least equal with sins, contrary to the nabs getting owned by sins opinions.

garethporlest18 · Oct 27, 2009, 03:46 AM // 03:46

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

What is up with the warriors? I know it's been repeated several times in this thread but its just insane how many use Crushing Blow without a KD. I mean the skills are literally 1 - 2 - 3. I don't get how you can be just that bad at the game, even the RA folk know how to 1 -2 a hammer.

I faced one of those. I felt really bad for the dude. He kept using CB on me without any KD at all.

Mr. Undisclosed · Oct 27, 2009, 03:49 AM // 03:49

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Warriors are at least equal with sins, contrary to the nabs getting owned by sins opinions.

I've played both and honestly they are not equal. Warriors just can't put out the same pressure the sins can.

Chocobo1 · Oct 27, 2009, 03:51 AM // 03:51

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Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed

I've played both and honestly they are not equal. Warriors just can't put out the same pressure the sins can.

Just the fact that it can put out pressure without relying on a chain is a huge bonus to me.

Mr. Undisclosed · Oct 27, 2009, 04:02 AM // 04:02

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Just the fact that it can put out pressure without relying on a chain is a huge bonus to me.

What really makes it inferior is that its completely shut down by blindness where assassins are not.

garethporlest18 · Oct 27, 2009, 04:05 AM // 04:05

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Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed

What really makes it inferior is that its completely shut down by blindness where assassins are not.

That and it's IAS is horrible. Also, Mighty Blow should be Heavy Blow. But I guess Anet didn't want a knocklock fest.

Perfected Shadow · Oct 27, 2009, 10:49 AM // 10:49

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Originally Posted by Feathermoore Rep

...piercing shields. Do it now.

"Swift as the Wind" > "Through Thick and Thin" against assassins.

CB is always fun, except when you go up against syncers who are probably laughing their asses off in vent @ anet's failure to fix syncing.

~ Dan ~ · Oct 27, 2009, 11:46 AM // 11:46

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

I faced one of those. I felt really bad for the dude. He kept using CB on me without any KD at all.

Just the one? I think i've only faced one who wasn't a complete idiot.

Revelations · Oct 27, 2009, 12:51 PM // 12:51

This arena is full of amazing. Some of my favorite tactics are as follows;

-Necros who randomly sac health without sending any conditions.
-Warriors as mentioned earlier.
-Sins who still roll face through their entire chain after getting PS Teased.
-Ele's happyspamming blind all over casters. (AoR heal is only a valid excuse if you're about to die)
-Mesmers happyspamming Tease, PDrain, Clumsiness.

I think I've only seen one sin who didn't utterly fail with signet of malice also.

Not sure I like how insanely important the Battlecry shrine is, and the three shrine map is badly designed.

Very strong streak with A/A/Me/Mo/Rt earlier. Broke by a sync.

Sarevok Thordin · Oct 27, 2009, 01:19 PM // 13:19

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Originally Posted by Revelations

Not sure I like how insanely important the Battlecry shrine is, and the three shrine map is badly designed.

Some freakish retards will BERATE you for trying to cap that shrine....followed by colourful language.

Snow Bunny · Oct 27, 2009, 01:34 PM // 13:34

The battlecrey + morale shrines are about equal, whereas energy and health are non-issues.

If you can't cap with 600 health you're not going to cap with 720

Sarevok Thordin · Oct 27, 2009, 01:36 PM // 13:36

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

The battlecrey + morale shrines are about equal, whereas energy and health are non-issues.

If you can't cap with 600 health you're not going to cap with 720

It's even funnier when you see some smart alec assassin telling you you don't need the BC shrine despite the fact they cannot seem to catch fleeing Eles....

The Black Mumba · Oct 27, 2009, 03:29 PM // 15:29

Don't forget the "Brawn over Brains" inscription instead of "Strength and Honor", and the armor mod instead of the +30hp for melee/ranged weapons.

Revelations · Oct 27, 2009, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

The battlecrey + morale shrines are about equal, whereas energy and health are non-issues.

If you can't cap with 600 health you're not going to cap with 720

I'd place battlecry on the top of that pyramid, definitely. It makes you invulnerable against warriors and assassins, it lets you break away from engagements that obviously aren't going well, it gives you better mobility to cap other various shrines, and it helps you chase down fleeing targets. The +1 morale, IAS, and recharge buff are icing on the cake. I simply don't see an extra +1 morale being in the same league as such a powerful effect, though it is still a much stronger shrine than health/energy.

smilingscar · Oct 27, 2009, 05:03 PM // 17:03

Sins do seem powerful, but it also seems like there's a lot to counter them with the other classes. The builds seem much more anti-melee this year. I haven't found sins to be a trump card of any kind.

DivinePimp · Oct 27, 2009, 05:08 PM // 17:08

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Originally Posted by Feathermoore Rep

Oh right, and if you aren't going in with all +physical armor and 20% condition reduction runes and piercing shields. Do it now.

What Insignia combination and Rune combination do you recommend for a Monk, considering the skills are locked in CB?

Also +physical armor doesn't apply to Monks right, since they don't have that Attribute Bonus?

Thanks.

Edit: I haven't been playing for a long while and usually come in every event or so. I don't understand after ALL these updates they've had, why PVP still doesn't have built in voice chat. Sometimes you need to say a lot to PVE'ers in CB in a relatively short amount, like quick tips that might save the team.

Do they have an official response concerning in-game voice chat?

SluggyTheZealot · Oct 27, 2009, 05:10 PM // 17:10

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Originally Posted by Revelations

I'd place battlecry on the top of that pyramid, definitely. It makes you invulnerable against warriors and assassins, it lets you break away from engagements that obviously aren't going well, it gives you better mobility to cap other various shrines, and it helps you chase down fleeing targets. The +1 morale, IAS, and recharge buff are icing on the cake. I simply don't see an extra +1 morale being in the same league as such a powerful effect, though it is still a much stronger shrine than health/energy.

Seems to me like having two health shrines against just battle-cry is better if you're splitting against a mob style team and end up getting in to a 5v5 with them. Too many people waste time going for morale shrines when the other team has two useful shrines (ie battlecry + 1 health or both health). I could be wrong, I'm sure people will let me know if I am.